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[edit] Instructions

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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

[edit] DYK criteria

Official criteria: DYK rules
Unofficial criteria: LaPella's unwritten rules
  • DYK evaluation includes:
  • Length - The Article should contain at least 1,500 characters in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles having more than 1,500 characters of prose still may be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
  • Verification - The DYK hook fact in the article needs an inline cite at the end of the sentence and the article in general should use inline, cited sources.
  • Date - The new article should be no more than five days old and the expanded article should be expanded at least fivefold with new text within the last five days.
  • Length
  • DYK qualifying characters: To count the number of characters in a piece of text, you will need to use a JavaScript extension like User:Dr pda/prosesize.js (instructions on the talk page), a free website like this, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, this Talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. Other word processing programs may have a similar feature. For Mac users, Apple has a Word counter widget available for Mac OS X 10.4 or later. Note: The character counts indicated on "Revision history" pages are not accurate for DYK purposes as they include categories, infoboxes and similar text in articles, and comments and signatures in hooks on this page.
  • Lists: Proposed lists need 1,500+ characters of prose text. The listed items themselves are not counted as part the the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters
  • Verification
  • Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be:
    1. interesting to draw in a variety of readers,
    2. short and concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces),
    3. neutral,
    4. definite facts that are mentioned in the article, and
    5. always cited in the article with an inline citation.
  • Please note that hooks are subject without notice to copyediting as they move to the main page. The nature of the DYK process makes it impractical to consult users over every such edit. In particular, hooks will be shortened if they are deemed too long: the 200-character limit is an outside limit, not a recommended length. Also, watch the suggestions page to ensure that no issues have been raised about your hook, because if you do not respond to issues raised your hook may not be featured at all.
  • Articles on living individuals must be carefully checked to ensure that no unsourced or poorly sourced negative material is included. Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided.
  • Other issues
  • Pictures: Pictures accompanying the DYK hook should be:
    1. freely licensed suitably and freely (PD, GFDL, CC etc) licensed (NOT fair use) because the main page can only have freely licensed pictures;
    2. suitable, attractive, and interesting at a 100x100px-wide resolution;
    3. already in the article; and
    4. relevant to the article.
  • Sounds: Sounds accompanying the DYK hook should have similar qualities to pictures, and should be formatted using {{DYK Listen|filename.ogg|Brief description}}

[edit] Sample DYK suggestion strings

Please use one of the below strings to post your DYK nomination, using the "creator" or "expander", "collaborator", and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.
Do not wikilink the article title, or the creator, expander, and nominator usernames; the template will wikilink them automatically.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use Fair Use images in your hook suggestion.
Do wikilink words in the hook.

  1. New Article, Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|creator=|image=}}
  2. New Article, Not Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|creator=|nominator=|image=}}
  3. 5X expansion, Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|expander=|image=}}
  4. 5X expansion, Not Self-Nom: {{subst:DYKsug|article=|hook=... that ?|expander=|nominator=|image=}}
  5. Other parameters: |altusername= |article2= |article3= |article4= |article5= |comment= |expander2= |expander3= |creator2= |creator3= |creator4= |ALT1= |ALT2=

An example of how to use the template is given below:

{{subst:DYKsug
 | article   = Example
 | hook      = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | creator   = Jimbo Wales
 | expander  = 
 | nominator =
 | image     = Example.png
 | comment   =
}}
  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
  • When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
  • Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
  • If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name|January 9}} Thanks, ~~~~

[edit] Symbols

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
{{subst:DYKtick}} Yes No problems, ready for DYK
{{subst:DYKtickAGF}} Yes Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
{{subst:DYK?}} Query DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
{{subst:DYK?no}} Maybe DYK eligibility requires some additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
{{subst:DYKno}} No Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem}} on the user's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

[edit] Current status

Comment
Earliest time for next update is Friday, 9 January 2009 11:06 Wikipedia time (UTC).

Today is Friday, January 9, 2009; it is now 07:14 (UTC)

Time since last update: 2 hours. (verify)

Reset ClockPurge

The next update will be produced from queue 5.

There are five queues;

List of DYK Hooks by Date
Date # of Hooks # Verified
January 9 2
January 8 14 2
January 7 27
January 6 38 6
January 5 33 5
January 4 35 6
January 3 34 6
January 2 23 1
January 1 7 2
December 31 1
Total 214 28
Last updated 6:10, January 9, 2009 (UTC)
Current time is 07:14, January 9, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Backlogged?

This page often seems to be backlogged. If the DYK template has not been updated for substantially more than 6 hours, it may be useful to attract the attention of one of the administrators who regularly updates the template. See the page Wikipedia:Did you know/Admins for a list of administrators who have volunteered to help with this project.

[edit] Where is my hook?

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings at the bottom of this page.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

[edit] Candidate entries

[edit] Articles created/expanded on January 9

[edit] Gene Petit

[edit] Suchindram Theroor Birds Sanctuary, Central Asian Flyway

2 New articles by: Marcus (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Self-nom

[edit] Articles created/expanded on January 8

[edit] Søren Jaabæk

[edit] Kevin Thomas (footballer)

[edit] Carmignano (wine)

[edit] Paul Dresser Birthplace


[edit] Germany national football manager

[edit] Galileo (film)

  • …that Joseph Losey directed both the first U.S. theatrical version of Galileo in 1947 and the 1975 film version? (new article, self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Dates, length, and reference all check out. - Dravecky (talk) 01:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Alberto Madril

  • ... that, despite competing for over 20 years, Alberto Madril reportedly refuses to acknowledge that he was once a professional wrestler? —  5x expansion by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] John McGillicuddy

[edit] The Softwire

  • ... that The Softwire series by PJ Haarsma is about a young boy who can communicate with computers with his mind? — New article by Kethra (talk). Self nom at 19:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ray Gunkel

  • ... that professional wrestler Ray Gunkel won his final match despite suffering a heart injury in that match that killed him later that day? —  5x expansion by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Not a five-fold expansion. I count 1272 characters in the 3 December 2008 version of the article and 4399 in the 9 January 2009 version, that's a 3.5-fold increase. Can it be further increased? Truthanado (talk) 05:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WREN (AM)

[edit] Lucien Heath


[edit] List of FA Amateur Cup winners

[edit] Kenneth Walton (Pathologist)

  • ... that pathologist Kenneth Walton conducted a 1973 study into the causes of heart disease where he got participants to eat greasy fry-ups? — New article by Ironholds (talk). Self nom 08:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Dates, length, and reference all check out good. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Articles created/expanded on January 7

[edit] Leif Ryvarden

[edit] History of the Pike Place Market


[edit] Gedalio Grinberg and Nathan George Horwitt

[edit] Paul LeDuc (wrestler)

  • ... that professional wrestlers Jos LeDuc and Paul LeDuc played the role of brothers so well that news that they were not related created a sensation on talk shows? — New article by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 05:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Wilkinson

[edit] In My Sleep

  • That's okay.. the image had nothing to do with the hook anyway. Strange too that when Allen Wolf created "Morning Star Games", he had no idea it would itself be so successful... when all he wanted to do was raise a little capital for his film. He'll probably be able to finance quite a few. Thus was born "Morning Star Pictures"... and 3 more articles to write. Wolf first and then his two Morning Star companies. Fun stuff! Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • How about this slightly shortened hook: ALT 1 ... that In My Sleep was financed by Morning Star Games, a company created by filmmaker Allen Wolf to fund it as his first feature film? --Bruce1eetalk 11:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Bush ballads

  • If I'm too late no wuckin furries mate, it's all fair dinkum. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


    • This article was created on 1 January. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 02:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
True, although 15 minutes later and it would have been the second, and it was nommed a few hours into the eighth. But if the rules must be upheld that's okay with me. I was waiting to see if there would be input on the article, but it's just been me so far. And on such a substantial subject it's taken some time to digest what the title and content should be. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
My mistake, I was looking at a diff but it wasn't the first one. Some consideration might be given for the time it takes to develop longer articles on more complicated or broader subjects, but it's cool. I should have nomed it earlier. Peace. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Coffee Pot (Roanoke, Virginia)

  • ...and what could be more historic than that?--Wetman (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, it certainly speaks to a culturally different time in the United States. Hate the NRHP all you want. But you can't deny that this type of roadside establishment has an important place in a bygone era of American history. Look no further than the cultural significance of Old Route 66. Sarcasm aside, preservation has value.--IvoShandor (talk) 09:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I think it's a great hook. I love articles on the old places with unique and quirky history. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Mario Milano

  • ... that, due to a government-imposed curfew, professional wrestler Mario Milano had to wrestle under a mask at the beginning of his career because he was underage and not allowed out after 9 o'clock? —  5x expansion by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] SS Empire Arnold

[edit] Rinshō Kadekaru

  • ... that Okinawan folk singer Rinshō Kadekaru was gravely wounded during World War II, and reported dead, only to survive and enjoy a lengthy career, living until 1999? — New article by LordAmeth (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that Okinawan folk singer Rinshō Kadekaru secretly left home at the age of 16, selling one of his family's cows to pay for passage to OsakaLordAmeth (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Clathrus ruber

  • ... that the putrid stench of the "latticed stinkhorn" fungus Clathrus ruber attracts insects to help disperse its spores? — New article by sasata (talk). Self nom at 20:30, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Operation Geranium

[edit] Anatoly Koryagin

  • Nice article, though I can't access most of the journal references to verify. The hook is a little verbose -- could it perhaps be shortened slightly? Perhaps: "... that Anatoly Koryagin was imprisoned for conducting psychiatric interviews with Soviet dissidents confined to mental institutions and smuggling a paper about his findings to the Lancet?" Espresso Addict (talk) 04:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
  • No objection to shortening the hook. Mine was right at the 220 char limit I think, because I was trying to provide proper context, which is sometimes hard to achieve within the DYK limitations. Regarding verification, the external link after the references, which is freely accessible, can also verify the story as far as the hook goes. They've used different sources, mostly in Russian. I've written it from Western science journals and newspapers; because of this it's missing early life, etc. Xasodfuih (talk) 11:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)